The confusion between Lucifer and this invented Devil named Satan is one of the oldest religious conspiracies that is still in effect to this very day. This is no surprise being that most all Christians are simply not educated on the bible, its history or the true meanings behind many of the biblical passages and the words that are contained in this book. My hopes are to educate you by telling you the truth in the most simple manner possible. In doing so, I ask that you please keep an open mind and that you do not shoot the witness.
The facts are Lucifer is mentioned only once in the Bible. ” How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning.” Isaiah xiv. 12.
Not any other time is Lucifer mentioned and at no time as it been mentioned with Satan or the Devil. Hence, any assumptions you may have that Lucifer is Satan or the Devil are false and simply based onheresy. What this means is that you need to get educated by reading about this subject yourself and I will also provide some research material with links below this article. If you think I AM lying or trying to mislead you, then the burden of proof is on you to prove me wrong. This is done not just by stating your alleged facts, but by also providing actual evidence which I bet that you will never be able to accomplish in a million years.
This case solved. Lucifer is NOT Satan or the Devil.
Below, I will provide a multitude of expert authors, books and links for you to investigate this yourself if you still do not “believe” what I know as fact. As they say, ignorance is bliss and knowledge is power. I choose knowledge.
Lucifer is mentioned but once in the Bible. ” How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning.” Isaiah xiv. 12. Shakespeare uses it six times. ” Falls like Lucifer.” Henry VIII., Act iii. Sc. 2. ” Lucifer and Beelzebub himself.” Henry V.
books.google.comJohn Kitto – 1851 – Free Google eBook – Read
6 ‘Zcurtiaos), a word that occurs once in the English Version in the linen — ‘ How art thou fallen from heaven, Lucifer, son of the morning ! … This, the popular sense, is conveyed in the note in Barker’s Bible : ‘ Thou that thoughtest thyselfe most glorious, and as it were placed m … According to ecclesiastical lia- dition, the author of the Gospel is the same Luke who is mentioned in Paul’s Epistles (Pbilem.
But Lucifer is actually, the name of the Bright and Morning Star, and not the father of evil. … King James translated Bible of 1611 A. D. In the Canaanites Amharic Literature of ancient Egypt, North Afrikan Mythology, the Bright and Morning Star, …
This is the only place where the word Lucifer occurs in the English Bible, and it is here evidently applied to the king of Babylon. … are without foundation, and arose in part, perhaps, from confounding him with the Lucius mentioned in Acts 13:1.
Comments 1. The words “devil”, “satan” and “angel” never occur in this chapter. This is the only place in Scripture where the word “Lucifer” occurs. 2. There is no evidence that Is. 14 is describing anything that happened in the garden of Eden; …
I (along with most interpreters) think that this passage is not about Satan. For one thing, although Lucifer is a traditional name for Satan, people base that tradition solely on this passage. Nowhere else does the Bible call Satan Lucifer.
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Jesus says of himself, “I am the bright morning star” which is a definition of Lucifer. Does that mean Jesus is calling himself the devil? No. Because lucifer is a description not a person.
Anyone who can speak Aramaic – it is my mother tongue- knows that the word Lucifer NEVER appears in the Bible. In Aramaic the word is ܐܝܠܠ “to howl”… and in the usual convoluted way which is typical of translations from Aramaic to English, somehow became Lucifer!
Isaiah14:12-14. Context, context, context.
The prophet is talking to a person and a demonic spirit at the same time. The king of Babylon and the demon that controls him. AKA, Lucifer. He didn’t fall out from heaven. He fell from heaven because he was cut down from trying to enter. Demons are bodiless spirits of the nephalim gaints in Genesis. It’s probable that Lucifer is one of the first generations of the abomination that went down with the angels that left their first estate. God won’t allow them into heaven because they are “unclean spirits”. Satan, is an angelic being, an there is convincing record that he’s a seraphim. He seduced the angels/watchers to leave their first estate and taught them how to do it and copulate with human women. Agenda???? Read the curse given him in the garden and God’s plan of promise for redemption of man.
Robert Fernandez Jr
on January 21, 2022 at 7:11 pm
I think you are correct here. This scripture isn’t speaking of the “talking serpent” (also, not what that word means… but you know who I’m referring to I assume) from the Garden of Eden. To understand who this scripture is really talking about, you have to truly understand the meaning of first two verses of Genesis.
KJV
“1. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.”
The word “And” starting the 2nd verse speaks volumes, I think. An Almighty God, Creator of all, who speaks things into existence opens creation with a formless, void, thing full of darkness? I think verse two starting with “And” means something happened before the earth was formless, void and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
See, by the time we meet the “Nacash-Seraf”, or Shiny dragon in Gen 3, he is already in opposition to the Creator. He is tempting Eve to trick her and Adam into not only eating of forbidden fruit, but into relinquishing ownership of what God gave them. Namely, Earth. A rebellion had already taken place by the time Gen 2 starts. What is then pictured is a place already under judgement. Hence, the formless, void, darkness.
I’m taking you on this rabbit trail to explain who Lucifer actually likely is. It isn’t the Nachash. The answer to this begins in Gen 6, where rebellious angels take a shine (pun intended) to human women, and engage sexual relations with them, and have children….it’s important, because regardless if you believe in the Word of God or not, if your under 50, your chances of meeting them in the not very distant future are actually quite high…I think…
To find the name of the leader of these rebel angels who fathered hybrid humans, we must leave the more well known “Bible” cannon, and look at something most Hebrews would be very familiar with, I think…The book of Enoch
Got questions.com has good enough evidence for me.(and most of the other commentators I’ll bet) see below
There is no verse in the Bible that says, “Lucifer is Satan,” but an examination of several passages reveals that Lucifer can be none other than Satan. The fall of Lucifer described in Isaiah 14:12 is likely the same that Jesus referred to in Luke 10:18: “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.” A similar fall is depicted in Ezekiel 28.
Isaiah 14:12–18 describes the fall from heaven of one called “Lucifer,” a name that means “morning star,” “son of the dawn,” “Day Star / Daystar,” or “shining star.” The description of the one referred to shows us it can be none other than Satan. We know from Jesus’ own words in Luke 10 that Satan fell from heaven. So, when Isaiah refers to Lucifer (In Hebrew, helel) being cast down to earth (Isaiah 14:12), it can be none other than Satan. The reason for his fall is found in verses 13 and 14: “You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’” This has always been Satan’s desire—to be God—and it is the very temptation he used in the garden of Eden to get Eve to disobey God: “You shall be as God” (Genesis 3:5).
Ezekiel 28 is another passage thought to refer to Lucifer/Satan. Although it begins with Ezekiel being commanded by God to “take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre” (v. 12), an evil idolatrous king, it soon becomes clear that the passage is referring as well to the power behind that king—Satan. Verse 13 says he was “in Eden, the garden of God.” Clearly, the king of Tyre was never in Eden. Verse 14 says, “You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you.” Apparently, Lucifer/Satan had a position of guardian angel in heaven “among the fiery stones,” thought to be the shining precious jewels that are seen in other descriptions of heaven (Exodus 24:10; Revelation 21:18–21). Since the king of Tyre was never in heaven, either, this can only be describing Lucifer. The rest of the passage describes the reason he was cast out of heaven. Because of his beauty, his heart became proud and his wisdom was corrupted (Ezekiel 28:17). Pride in his perfection, wisdom, and beauty (v. 12) became the source of his downfall, and God threw him to the earth (v. 17). This was witnessed by the Lord Jesus in heaven before His incarnation (Luke 10:18).
To summarize, Lucifer was cast out of heaven for his sin of pride and his desire to be God. Jesus referred to seeing Satan being cast out of heaven. Therefore, we can conclude that Lucifer and Satan are one and the same.
Lucifer was considered the angel of light in my upbringing. I interpret Genesis this way…the serpent was Lucifer, sent by the Divine to ignite the Divine spark within Eve by encouraging her to eat the fruit of Knowledge. Eve upon doing so, encouraged Adam to eat of the Fruit. The Demiurge (lesser God spawned from Sophia) was furious with Lucifer (serpent) and cursed him. The Demiurge cast Adam and Eve out of Eden, never to return.
Lucifer is the light. That light represents the Divine spark in all life. That spark can be found and felt through natural state i.e. Meditation. As Humans are conscious and have conscience due to possessing knowledge, that to me is better than blind ignorance which is how the Demiurge would have us if he could….by the power of this myth…the lesson to be learned from Genesis is Knowledge is Enlightenment…though many use it for power….The Demiurge sort to burn the messenger, Lucifer…The Demiurge is more like Satan than Lucifer ever will be
That’s where I am getting confused. I can totally see where you are coming from… but, the fact that the people that are controlling this world are in fact claiming themselves “Luciferians” as they claim to be and look to him as the rightful God is a little alarming don’t you think? Look up Lucis Trust, Cern, banking cabal, etc. All roads trace back to Switzerland. So why would Luciferians be so evil and try to control humanity and control everything, the land, our freedom we rightfully deserve etc. Poisoning our food, water, our ability to think for ourselves by brainwashing people via media as well, enslaving us etc. I think that’s worth questioning. I mean, Isn’t it? Why would a Luciferian do such a thing? I know one thing is for certain, when I pray.. I pray to the God that is the creator of ALL existence that means the one who created Lucifer, who created everything. Also, these Luciferians believe Eve had sex with the serpent (like you mentioned but more straight to the point) and that is the direct bloodline that has been in control for ..well ever. It’s a mystery. They keep erasing our history too, making their own. It does appear we are a slave race.. After we die, we keep getting our memories erased and put into new vehicles. There’s people however trying to stop this and bring heaven to earth. I think we deserve that. I don’t know about you, but I’d like to be at peace with the one and only true God when I die rather than continuing to be a slave. Jesus = Iesous = Hail Zeus. The Romans messed with the religion. All this division when really we are all one in the same. We are so much more than this. The real messiahs name was Yahushua. Yah-U-Shua… Joshua in English which is also my brothers name who just passed away last year.
Thank you for sharing you thoughts. You hit it dead on! I wasn’t aware of Yahushua meaning Joshua in English. Sorry to hear about your brother. It seems that you have a gift of having an own mind which allows you to have a beautiful relationship with our father the creator. It’s he amazing! May he look after you and keep you safe.
Your confusion suggests intelligence, but there is only term you keep using that is not befitting someone as smart as you – “we deserve” and “rightfully deserve”. What makes us so worthy of anything? you, me, humans as a whole – rightfully deserve nothing. There is not a single quality or trait or accomplishment that affords you luxury. Until we earn the right, to heaven, to peace, freedom or property, we deserve nothing.
Most humans remain neutral, passive and altogether ineffective their entire lives. Doing nothing, being harmless does not infer goodness. I’d argue quite the opposite.
When you’ve earned it, you’ll take it and no one human or otherwise will question it.
Yes, Lucifer is Satan. He assumed his new name after his fall from the heavenly realm. Nearly every ancient culture speaks of their ancestors as having come from the stars, in flying machines. The Mayans and their Quetzalcoatl, the Dogon and their Nommo, the Indians and their Naga, the Chinese and their dragon emperor, Fu Xi (remember the dragon who was cast out of heaven? ). These reptilian ‘ancestors’ were non other than the fallen angels (Anunnaki) who came to earth to decieve and to mislead. Only Yahweh has the power to create and to give eternal life. Lucifer brought sin, death and misery to the world. Jesus Christ (God in the flesh) came to break that curse, so that whoever repents of their sins and accepts Him as their Lord and Saviour will have eternal life with their heavenly Father.
I agree with your comment to the fullest. But you forget one thing. The Anunnaki where all types of humanoid beings. From my limited understanding, the reptilians were here before Mann! This is why many feel that aren’t permitted to claim the earth as ours!
Actually as you continue your rabbit hole dives, you will find the reptilians were Yahweh’s creation and workers on Mars and other planets. They had star gates to portal and do his work and bidding. When they tired of the humans being loved more and lusted after the women a group of them came through the star gate but accidentally destroyed the gate and their planet in doing so. They could not return.
I would tend to agree with them in that assumption, given that we are closer akin to a virus than what is accepted as the quality of a god. And now I hear that we are about to go back to mars and finish the job…
hi , in revelations 22:16
16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you[a] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
That’s exactly correct sister. Amen. He’s confirming the prophecy told of Him and His deity. Why???? Because there is a counter fit coming. Notice our saviour says ” the bright and morning star”. Isaiah says ” son of the morning” as he confronts Lucifer. Those who think that our Lord is referring his name to be Lucifer in revelations, need to be prayed for. To think such a thing is nothing less than demonic influence. Our Lord said, ” I am the “light” the “truth” and the “way”. When He returns, He will come as a ” bright” light. He also went to Paul on the road to demascus and appeared as a ” bright” light that knocked him off his horse. Christ is the real thing. Satan will try to mimic the Trinity appearing as an angel of light (the counter fit ).
Karistus history says that Lucifer, or Lushifar was the only survivor of his people who were attacked and killed in war…the entire planet. This was is still raging today. He was adopted by the Karistus king and was much loved by humans on earth. So much so htey made him prince of earth. Long story short he was shafted by an earth human, hte father of hte one he wanted as his mate. The human father caused Lushifar to be horribly disfigured in a war he sent him to fight in. He was most beautiful before and a heart that was beyond generous. The human father also took his daughter, Lushifar’s love, killed her and sent the pieces of her body to different kingdoms on earth. Sick eh? So Lushifar did a complete day to nite change wiht these events.
Hi.very all facts about satan and lusifer (satan or lusifer is a one of them(geen)) HIS NAME in QURAN (HOLY BOOK OF MUSLIMS) PLEASE READ QURAN. you are found all things about goall of creat you and all world by ALLAH (GOD) AND OTHER THINGS.
i think it is the same person. isaiah 14:12. says “How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations( emphasis on weakened the nations). also revelation 12:9 says And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him( emphasis on deceives the whole world.) Ezekiel 28:12:13 says “Son of man, take up a lamentation over the king of Tyre and say to him, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD, “You had the seal of perfection, Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. 13″You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The ruby, the topaz and the diamond; The beryl, the onyx and the jasper; The lapis lazuli, the turquoise and the emerald; And the gold, the workmanship of your settings and sockets. i think the whole chapter talks about the angel that fell, the morning star,the anointed Cherub that covereth. he was the steward of the earth and form Ezekiel 28 says it all. therefore these questions. who fell from heaven? Ans; the anointed Cherub that covereth, star of the morning, How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning. then the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan. deductively Lucifer, the devil, dragon or satan is the same person. do not be decieved.
agreed. this dude put up a bunch of quotes. and worded this page all nicely. but the only evidence he really has against it. is him pointing out that the bible doesn’t say word for word lucifer is satan. but that doesn’t in anyway disprove lucifer being satan. the bibles missing pieces as it is. this to me comes off as pure, i disagree with your views, because you have a little evidence, so i’m going to provide little evidence to battle your view. and somehow that means i’m right.. its like a person whose fond of freemasons because they have one whose a friend in the family. and that automatically means to them that they know every single freemason and what they’re up to, even though they’re in the millions. like how does that logic make sense. you’re wrong about the freemasons possibly worshipping lucifer because i have a freemason family. sounds like a little kid parading around as a know it all just because another human tells them what they believe to be true. every human that comes up with these, youre perspective is wrong, and my persective is right because i’m right just come off sounding like a bunch of idiots tryna conform you. look. believe what you want. but don’t believe everything you hear, especially when its written by another human, and don’t believe any other human trying to convince you you’re enlighted, or privy to some lost knowledge, the fact that this is another human trying to convince you of some lost knowledge, should make you pretty suspicious of them. question everything. even this article, which bases no real evidence against lucifer possibly being satan. literally the only evidence here is “your wrong about lucifer because the bible doesn’t say lucifer is satan) in the midst of a bunch of paragraphs of quotations of half statements and half truths, providing no credible evidence whatsoever to the conversation. god i hope god re enters your life and you drop this gnostic bs. though i know its wrong to judge, i see that stuff way to often within groups that take oaths of secrecy. and god had some shit to say about people who take oaths in secret. don’t believe me. do your own research.
agreed with what is not in bible does not disprove but it does not prove either. Do we follow bible or we deduced from bible? if we deduced with our sinned mind……….
Isaiah 14:12-17 12How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! 13You said in your heart, “I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon. 14I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.” 15But you are brought down to the realm of the dead, to the depths of the pit. 16Those who see you stare at you, they ponder your fate: “Is this the man who shook the earth and made kingdoms tremble, 17the man who made the world a wilderness, who overthrew its cities and would not let his captives go home?”
could it be “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning. then the great dragon was thrown down,” AND “the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan.” One dragon and one serpent was thrown down.
satan and lucifer are 2 different personalities according to the unrantia book, i think even enoch speaks of this … the truth does not require your belief, but indeed, lucifer is not a ally of man — the powers that be, occult and luciferian in practice go to unwitting lengths to soil and defame his holiest of names ( Jesus Christ ) .. don´t think for 1 otium that this is a disinformation ploy, for you have been deceived more then just once …
Satan or Luzifer give the man the Power of Intellect.adam saw himself and knew that he is naked and his wife knew it too. They start to think.
You know the story. You see, the same story that used in the garden for Adam and Eve, the devil, is the story with which he now misleads the world and can grow the occult: “I will make you a God.”
He can not even make himself a God, how can he make of thee a God?
Do you remember with what he would make of him a god:
Knowledge-Intelekt!
I am a man that is of deep faith and understanding. I have read the bible. I know that most Christians are mislead. If you look at psalms 110 verses “the lord said to my lord, sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool, the lord shall send the rod of your strength out of zion, rule in the midst of your enemies, your people shall be volunteers in the day of your power, in the beauties of holiness, OUT OF THE WOMB OF THE MORNING, you have the dew of your youth, the lord has sworn and will not relent, you are a priest forever according to the order of melchizedek, son of the morning, womb of the morning, now lets explore something else, revelations 22 verses 26-29 to him who overcomes and keeps my works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations, he shall rule them with a rod of iron, they shall be dashed to pieces like a potters vessel, as I have also received from my father and I will also give him the morning star, now lets go to psalms 2 why do the nations rage and the kings plot a vain thing, the rulers take counsel together against the lord and against his anointed, saying, let us break their bonds in pieces and cast away their cords from us, he who sits heaven shall laugh, the lord shall hold them in derision, then he shall speak to them in his wrath and distress them in his deep displeasure, yet I have set my king on my holy hill of zion, I will declare the decree the lord has said to me you are my son today I have begotten you, ask of me and I will give you the nations for your inheritance, and the ends of the earth for your possession, YOU SHALL BREAK THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON AND SHATTER THE LIKE A POTTERS VESSEL, now lets explore reincarnation in the bible, Elijah was reincarnated as john the Baptist so others are reincarnated as well, Mathew 11 10-17 ,behold I send my messenger before your face who will prepare your way before you, assuredly I say to you among woman those born of woman there has not risen one greater than John the Baptist, but he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater then he, and from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force, for all the prophets and law prophesied until John, and if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah, who is to come, he who has ears to hear let him hear, now Elijah was prophesied in Isiah to come during Christ first appearance, Isiah 40 3-4, the voice of one crying in the wilderness, prepare the way of the lord, make straight in the desert, a highway for our god, every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill brought low, the crooked places shall be made straight, and the rough places smooth, the glory of the lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together, in Malachi 4 verse 5 is the prophesy of Elijahs return ounce again before the lords second appearance, Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the lord, now Jesus Christ is the father in flesh, He uses parables so we don’t understand with the ears of our flesh, He himself says in John 10 30 I and the father are one, he also tells king david that he will make him his first born son and that with him HIS HAND SHALL BE ESTABLISHED, THAT HE WOULD COME TO THE EARTH THROUGH HIM, PSALMS 89 20-29 , then you spoke in a vision to your holy one and said, I have given help to one who is mighty, I have exalted on chosen from the people, I have found my servant David. with my holy oil I have anointed him, with whom my hand shall be established, also my arm will strengthen him, the enemy shall not outwit him nor the son of wickedness afflict him, I will beat down his foes before his face, and plague those that hate him, but my faithfulness and mercy shall be with him, and in my name his horn shall be exalted, also I will set his hand over the sea, and his right hand over the rivers, he shall cry to me, you are my father, my god and the rock of my salvation, also I will make him my first born, the highest of the kings of the EARTH, now Davids reincarnation at the time of Christ return is prophesied in Ezekiel 34 20-24 therefore thus says the lord god to them, behold I myself will judge between the fat and the lean sheep, because you have pushed with side and shoulder, butted all the weak ones with your horns and scattered them abroad, therefore I will save my flock and they shall no longer be a prey and I will judge between sheep and sheep, I will establish one shepherd over them and he shall feed them, my servant David. he shall feed them and be their shepherd, and I the lord will be their god, and my servant David a prince among them, I the lord have spoken, again in Ezekiel 37 24-27, David my servant shall be king over them, and they shall all have one shepherd, they shall also walk in my judgments and observe my statutes and do them, then they shall dell in the land that I have given to Jacob my servant, where your fathers dwelt, and shall dwell there, they their children, and their childrens children, forever and my servant David shall be their Prince forever, moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them, and it shall be an everlasting covenant with them, I will establish them and multiply them, and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forevermore, my tabernacle also shall be with them, indeed I will be their god and they shall be my people, the nations also will know that I the lord sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary is in their midst, David is Lucifer and I am David, I have the dew of my youth which came in the form of and implant I received at 7 years of age in my right buttock, it is advanced technology, the united states government has known of me for while now, the same ball of light that hovered over the temple mount in the holy city on the hill of zion, descended and ascended over me and my companions when I was 7 then that golf ball sized implant appeared the next morning, when I go through the body scanner at the airport it shows up as metal, I have been set on the holy hill but not yet received the dew of my youth, I am a very troubled man, I served our country, fought in Afghanistan and while I was there I received the dragon, the morning star, if I cannot tame this beast I will become Lucifer, if I can I will awaken In the likeness of the most high and dwell in his presence forever, also see job and you will see that morning star is reference for angels, Christ is the bright and morning star, the most high, there was another, she is of the tribe of Levi and I the tribe of Judah, we were raised in the same town and she was also taken into the beauties of holiness, see Psalms 45 she is to be my queen, she is a Levinson I have met with her many times in my dreams and every man she has ever loved has Died, I am the only one she can fornicate with, my father Jesus Christ is coming and when he is here all things will be seen and all will know that the son of man comes on the clouds,
Lucifer convinced primitive man to over identify with egoic identity and lose sight of his spiritual truth hence forth the fall from Grace, he is one as are all of us but does not deserve respect or admiration for what has happened in relation to this entity.
How can he not deserve respect or recognition God is God, the all knowing. The alpha and the omega he knows the beginning the end and everything in between, I for one love Lucifer because my God instructs me very clearly to love my enemy as I love my friend and ts not my place to judge but how many Christian can say they don’t judge daily? Let alon . Never? Not to many but we as Christians have no problem judging… People other religions other gods….. Its pathetic nothing Christ like about most self professed Christians …. I mean how many churches preach the bible? The ones I have been to only preach their opinion. That is not Gods word its human opinion
Ed, first of all, you said that you love Lucifer…are you serious? And your using the golden rule passage to back it up? That is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. I think you might be forgetting the wrath of God toward evil and evil-doers. Lucifer is wholly evil, a complete evil-doer, and you love Him? Even in God’s infinite love, I can confidently say that He does not love Lucifer.
Also, with the whole judging thing, Christians have a right to judge. In fact, the Bible says how to judge, and that they ought to judge. It is a command to judge. Another word that can be replaced is discernment. How can one discern without proper judgment? Granted, there are numerous hypocrites and bad judgments in the Church, but that is all the more reason why all should be welcome in church.
I apologize if you have had bad experiences with church. Nobody is perfect, especially the Church. It’s not easy finding one with sound doctrine and a good community to build each other up…and often times building each other up includes judging, hopefully good judging.
You don’t throw hate at hate it will only make it stronger…that is the problem with people today and why evil is growing we send it more negative energy that it what evil wants to be stronger! Love will conquer all don’t forget that the next time you judge!
@Ed can you explain whu god in the bible ask of his children to love thy enemy as thyself but dosent take heed to doing that himself.. and if lucifer is his creation also what makes you think he dosent love lucifer the same way he ask of us to love thy enemy.. and as mentioned above lucfer is the bearer of light.. the sun of the morning.. morning star.. that all sounds great to a civilization.. where does those characters spell evil?
The scriptures about lucifer is more of a question oh lucifer sun of the morning how has thou fallen.. but the scriptures on the devil satan meaning the opposite or adversary of something says the ancient Dragon has been thrown or cast down thats not a question the host know that God cast an evil out of the heavens but its like there asking how has lucifer fallen as if they didnt know why
27But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, 28Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. 29And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also. 30Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again. 31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise. 32For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them. 33And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same. 34And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again. 35But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. 36Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.
Do Not Judge
(Matthew 7:1-6; Romans 14:1-12)
37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: 38Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
39And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? 40The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master. 41And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 42Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye.
Shaka Saye Bambata Dolo
on December 10, 2012 at 9:55 am
There was no person or divine by the name of Satan or Set-Tan, who was the evil brother of Osris of anceint Egypt ( Kemit) North Afrika . This is where the concept of Satan or the Devil came from…Everything that God created, He created in pair, eg. man and woman, positive and negative, good and evil, but this does not mean that, the Devil or Satan is responsible for the wrong one does. This is also the concept of the polarity or the duel nature of man and God. The Intelllectual elite of the world, such as others and myself found a way to control the ignorant masses of the world who are suffering from the greed of the ruling class. The oppressed masses has been fool into beliving that , their problems or suffering are due to the work of the devil..whoever the devil may be. No, I am not disputing the fact that , you have bad people and good people. Whatever happpens to free will?
Actually, Lucifer’s name was changed to Satan once Satan got his ass whooped in the War of Heaven and got his sorry ass casted down, thus proving that the Angel that was once known as Lucifer, is now Satan, proving that Lucifer and Satan are the same angel.
Actually, in the original Hebrew text the verse in Isaiah was has nothing to do with Lucifer, but the king of Babylon. It was later on changed to “Lucifer.” Same goes to the verse in Ezekiel that Christians love to point out against Satan. It’s about another king who pissed off the so-called “God” of Israel.,
Satan most certainly does exist in the Bible specifically in the book of JOB. Satan means “Adversary, opponent, enemy” in Hebrew. “Ha” is the article “The” the proper name of the devil is actually his function. “The Adversary”. Indeed in Job “HaSatan” is a Tattle-tale and yes, he does roam the Earth. Job 1:6 ¶ Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.6 ¶ Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
1Pe 5:8 ¶ Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
In the the Young’s literal version “Adversary” answered “Jehovah” is in Job and “Opponent” is used in 1Peter. Yes, the Devil exists in scripture as a jealous person not wanting us to succeed and Jehovah will let him have his way with us. Paul and John the Baptists refer to it as “The Fiery trials, baptism of fire”.
The confusion between Lucifer and this invented Devil named Satan is one of the oldest religious conspiracies that is still in effect to this very day. This is no surprise being that most all Christians are simply not educated on the bible, its history or the true meanings behind many of the biblical passages and the words that are contained in this book. My hopes are to educate you by telling you the truth in the most simple manner possible. In doing so, I ask that you please keep an open mind and that you do not shoot the witness.
Jesus says of himself, “I am the bright morning star” which is a definition of Lucifer. Does that mean Jesus is calling himself the devil? No. Because lucifer is a description not a person.
Anyone who can speak Aramaic – it is my mother tongue- knows that the word Lucifer NEVER appears in the Bible. In Aramaic the word is ܐܝܠܠ “to howl”… and in the usual convoluted way which is typical of translations from Aramaic to English, somehow became Lucifer!
Isaiah14:12-14. Context, context, context.
The prophet is talking to a person and a demonic spirit at the same time. The king of Babylon and the demon that controls him. AKA, Lucifer. He didn’t fall out from heaven. He fell from heaven because he was cut down from trying to enter. Demons are bodiless spirits of the nephalim gaints in Genesis. It’s probable that Lucifer is one of the first generations of the abomination that went down with the angels that left their first estate. God won’t allow them into heaven because they are “unclean spirits”. Satan, is an angelic being, an there is convincing record that he’s a seraphim. He seduced the angels/watchers to leave their first estate and taught them how to do it and copulate with human women. Agenda???? Read the curse given him in the garden and God’s plan of promise for redemption of man.
I think you are correct here. This scripture isn’t speaking of the “talking serpent” (also, not what that word means… but you know who I’m referring to I assume) from the Garden of Eden. To understand who this scripture is really talking about, you have to truly understand the meaning of first two verses of Genesis.
KJV
“1. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.”
The word “And” starting the 2nd verse speaks volumes, I think. An Almighty God, Creator of all, who speaks things into existence opens creation with a formless, void, thing full of darkness? I think verse two starting with “And” means something happened before the earth was formless, void and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
See, by the time we meet the “Nacash-Seraf”, or Shiny dragon in Gen 3, he is already in opposition to the Creator. He is tempting Eve to trick her and Adam into not only eating of forbidden fruit, but into relinquishing ownership of what God gave them. Namely, Earth. A rebellion had already taken place by the time Gen 2 starts. What is then pictured is a place already under judgement. Hence, the formless, void, darkness.
I’m taking you on this rabbit trail to explain who Lucifer actually likely is. It isn’t the Nachash. The answer to this begins in Gen 6, where rebellious angels take a shine (pun intended) to human women, and engage sexual relations with them, and have children….it’s important, because regardless if you believe in the Word of God or not, if your under 50, your chances of meeting them in the not very distant future are actually quite high…I think…
To find the name of the leader of these rebel angels who fathered hybrid humans, we must leave the more well known “Bible” cannon, and look at something most Hebrews would be very familiar with, I think…The book of Enoch
Got questions.com has good enough evidence for me.(and most of the other commentators I’ll bet) see below
There is no verse in the Bible that says, “Lucifer is Satan,” but an examination of several passages reveals that Lucifer can be none other than Satan. The fall of Lucifer described in Isaiah 14:12 is likely the same that Jesus referred to in Luke 10:18: “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.” A similar fall is depicted in Ezekiel 28.
Isaiah 14:12–18 describes the fall from heaven of one called “Lucifer,” a name that means “morning star,” “son of the dawn,” “Day Star / Daystar,” or “shining star.” The description of the one referred to shows us it can be none other than Satan. We know from Jesus’ own words in Luke 10 that Satan fell from heaven. So, when Isaiah refers to Lucifer (In Hebrew, helel) being cast down to earth (Isaiah 14:12), it can be none other than Satan. The reason for his fall is found in verses 13 and 14: “You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’” This has always been Satan’s desire—to be God—and it is the very temptation he used in the garden of Eden to get Eve to disobey God: “You shall be as God” (Genesis 3:5).
Ezekiel 28 is another passage thought to refer to Lucifer/Satan. Although it begins with Ezekiel being commanded by God to “take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre” (v. 12), an evil idolatrous king, it soon becomes clear that the passage is referring as well to the power behind that king—Satan. Verse 13 says he was “in Eden, the garden of God.” Clearly, the king of Tyre was never in Eden. Verse 14 says, “You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you.” Apparently, Lucifer/Satan had a position of guardian angel in heaven “among the fiery stones,” thought to be the shining precious jewels that are seen in other descriptions of heaven (Exodus 24:10; Revelation 21:18–21). Since the king of Tyre was never in heaven, either, this can only be describing Lucifer. The rest of the passage describes the reason he was cast out of heaven. Because of his beauty, his heart became proud and his wisdom was corrupted (Ezekiel 28:17). Pride in his perfection, wisdom, and beauty (v. 12) became the source of his downfall, and God threw him to the earth (v. 17). This was witnessed by the Lord Jesus in heaven before His incarnation (Luke 10:18).
To summarize, Lucifer was cast out of heaven for his sin of pride and his desire to be God. Jesus referred to seeing Satan being cast out of heaven. Therefore, we can conclude that Lucifer and Satan are one and the same.
Lucifer was considered the angel of light in my upbringing. I interpret Genesis this way…the serpent was Lucifer, sent by the Divine to ignite the Divine spark within Eve by encouraging her to eat the fruit of Knowledge. Eve upon doing so, encouraged Adam to eat of the Fruit. The Demiurge (lesser God spawned from Sophia) was furious with Lucifer (serpent) and cursed him. The Demiurge cast Adam and Eve out of Eden, never to return.
Lucifer is the light. That light represents the Divine spark in all life. That spark can be found and felt through natural state i.e. Meditation. As Humans are conscious and have conscience due to possessing knowledge, that to me is better than blind ignorance which is how the Demiurge would have us if he could….by the power of this myth…the lesson to be learned from Genesis is Knowledge is Enlightenment…though many use it for power….The Demiurge sort to burn the messenger, Lucifer…The Demiurge is more like Satan than Lucifer ever will be
That’s where I am getting confused. I can totally see where you are coming from… but, the fact that the people that are controlling this world are in fact claiming themselves “Luciferians” as they claim to be and look to him as the rightful God is a little alarming don’t you think? Look up Lucis Trust, Cern, banking cabal, etc. All roads trace back to Switzerland. So why would Luciferians be so evil and try to control humanity and control everything, the land, our freedom we rightfully deserve etc. Poisoning our food, water, our ability to think for ourselves by brainwashing people via media as well, enslaving us etc. I think that’s worth questioning. I mean, Isn’t it? Why would a Luciferian do such a thing? I know one thing is for certain, when I pray.. I pray to the God that is the creator of ALL existence that means the one who created Lucifer, who created everything. Also, these Luciferians believe Eve had sex with the serpent (like you mentioned but more straight to the point) and that is the direct bloodline that has been in control for ..well ever. It’s a mystery. They keep erasing our history too, making their own. It does appear we are a slave race.. After we die, we keep getting our memories erased and put into new vehicles. There’s people however trying to stop this and bring heaven to earth. I think we deserve that. I don’t know about you, but I’d like to be at peace with the one and only true God when I die rather than continuing to be a slave. Jesus = Iesous = Hail Zeus. The Romans messed with the religion. All this division when really we are all one in the same. We are so much more than this. The real messiahs name was Yahushua. Yah-U-Shua… Joshua in English which is also my brothers name who just passed away last year.
Thank you for sharing you thoughts. You hit it dead on! I wasn’t aware of Yahushua meaning Joshua in English. Sorry to hear about your brother. It seems that you have a gift of having an own mind which allows you to have a beautiful relationship with our father the creator. It’s he amazing! May he look after you and keep you safe.
Your confusion suggests intelligence, but there is only term you keep using that is not befitting someone as smart as you – “we deserve” and “rightfully deserve”. What makes us so worthy of anything? you, me, humans as a whole – rightfully deserve nothing. There is not a single quality or trait or accomplishment that affords you luxury. Until we earn the right, to heaven, to peace, freedom or property, we deserve nothing.
Most humans remain neutral, passive and altogether ineffective their entire lives. Doing nothing, being harmless does not infer goodness. I’d argue quite the opposite.
When you’ve earned it, you’ll take it and no one human or otherwise will question it.
Yes, Lucifer is Satan. He assumed his new name after his fall from the heavenly realm. Nearly every ancient culture speaks of their ancestors as having come from the stars, in flying machines. The Mayans and their Quetzalcoatl, the Dogon and their Nommo, the Indians and their Naga, the Chinese and their dragon emperor, Fu Xi (remember the dragon who was cast out of heaven? ). These reptilian ‘ancestors’ were non other than the fallen angels (Anunnaki) who came to earth to decieve and to mislead. Only Yahweh has the power to create and to give eternal life. Lucifer brought sin, death and misery to the world. Jesus Christ (God in the flesh) came to break that curse, so that whoever repents of their sins and accepts Him as their Lord and Saviour will have eternal life with their heavenly Father.
I agree with your comment to the fullest. But you forget one thing. The Anunnaki where all types of humanoid beings. From my limited understanding, the reptilians were here before Mann! This is why many feel that aren’t permitted to claim the earth as ours!
Actually as you continue your rabbit hole dives, you will find the reptilians were Yahweh’s creation and workers on Mars and other planets. They had star gates to portal and do his work and bidding. When they tired of the humans being loved more and lusted after the women a group of them came through the star gate but accidentally destroyed the gate and their planet in doing so. They could not return.
I would tend to agree with them in that assumption, given that we are closer akin to a virus than what is accepted as the quality of a god. And now I hear that we are about to go back to mars and finish the job…
hi , in revelations 22:16
16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you[a] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
That’s exactly correct sister. Amen. He’s confirming the prophecy told of Him and His deity. Why???? Because there is a counter fit coming. Notice our saviour says ” the bright and morning star”. Isaiah says ” son of the morning” as he confronts Lucifer. Those who think that our Lord is referring his name to be Lucifer in revelations, need to be prayed for. To think such a thing is nothing less than demonic influence. Our Lord said, ” I am the “light” the “truth” and the “way”. When He returns, He will come as a ” bright” light. He also went to Paul on the road to demascus and appeared as a ” bright” light that knocked him off his horse. Christ is the real thing. Satan will try to mimic the Trinity appearing as an angel of light (the counter fit ).
Karistus history says that Lucifer, or Lushifar was the only survivor of his people who were attacked and killed in war…the entire planet. This was is still raging today. He was adopted by the Karistus king and was much loved by humans on earth. So much so htey made him prince of earth. Long story short he was shafted by an earth human, hte father of hte one he wanted as his mate. The human father caused Lushifar to be horribly disfigured in a war he sent him to fight in. He was most beautiful before and a heart that was beyond generous. The human father also took his daughter, Lushifar’s love, killed her and sent the pieces of her body to different kingdoms on earth. Sick eh? So Lushifar did a complete day to nite change wiht these events.
LOL! Satan predates the BUY BULL. It comes from Sanskrit.
Hi.very all facts about satan and lusifer (satan or lusifer is a one of them(geen)) HIS NAME in QURAN (HOLY BOOK OF MUSLIMS) PLEASE READ QURAN. you are found all things about goall of creat you and all world by ALLAH (GOD) AND OTHER THINGS.
i think it is the same person. isaiah 14:12. says “How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations( emphasis on weakened the nations). also revelation 12:9 says And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him( emphasis on deceives the whole world.) Ezekiel 28:12:13 says “Son of man, take up a lamentation over the king of Tyre and say to him, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD, “You had the seal of perfection, Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. 13″You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The ruby, the topaz and the diamond; The beryl, the onyx and the jasper; The lapis lazuli, the turquoise and the emerald; And the gold, the workmanship of your settings and sockets. i think the whole chapter talks about the angel that fell, the morning star,the anointed Cherub that covereth. he was the steward of the earth and form Ezekiel 28 says it all. therefore these questions. who fell from heaven? Ans; the anointed Cherub that covereth, star of the morning, How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning. then the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan. deductively Lucifer, the devil, dragon or satan is the same person. do not be decieved.
agreed. this dude put up a bunch of quotes. and worded this page all nicely. but the only evidence he really has against it. is him pointing out that the bible doesn’t say word for word lucifer is satan. but that doesn’t in anyway disprove lucifer being satan. the bibles missing pieces as it is. this to me comes off as pure, i disagree with your views, because you have a little evidence, so i’m going to provide little evidence to battle your view. and somehow that means i’m right.. its like a person whose fond of freemasons because they have one whose a friend in the family. and that automatically means to them that they know every single freemason and what they’re up to, even though they’re in the millions. like how does that logic make sense. you’re wrong about the freemasons possibly worshipping lucifer because i have a freemason family. sounds like a little kid parading around as a know it all just because another human tells them what they believe to be true. every human that comes up with these, youre perspective is wrong, and my persective is right because i’m right just come off sounding like a bunch of idiots tryna conform you. look. believe what you want. but don’t believe everything you hear, especially when its written by another human, and don’t believe any other human trying to convince you you’re enlighted, or privy to some lost knowledge, the fact that this is another human trying to convince you of some lost knowledge, should make you pretty suspicious of them. question everything. even this article, which bases no real evidence against lucifer possibly being satan. literally the only evidence here is “your wrong about lucifer because the bible doesn’t say lucifer is satan) in the midst of a bunch of paragraphs of quotations of half statements and half truths, providing no credible evidence whatsoever to the conversation. god i hope god re enters your life and you drop this gnostic bs. though i know its wrong to judge, i see that stuff way to often within groups that take oaths of secrecy. and god had some shit to say about people who take oaths in secret. don’t believe me. do your own research.
agreed with what is not in bible does not disprove but it does not prove either. Do we follow bible or we deduced from bible? if we deduced with our sinned mind……….
Isaiah 14:12-17 12How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! 13You said in your heart, “I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon. 14I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.” 15But you are brought down to the realm of the dead, to the depths of the pit. 16Those who see you stare at you, they ponder your fate: “Is this the man who shook the earth and made kingdoms tremble, 17the man who made the world a wilderness, who overthrew its cities and would not let his captives go home?”
could it be “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning. then the great dragon was thrown down,” AND “the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan.” One dragon and one serpent was thrown down.
John Milton’s writings are the source of much these false beliefs & confusion.
satan and lucifer are 2 different personalities according to the unrantia book, i think even enoch speaks of this … the truth does not require your belief, but indeed, lucifer is not a ally of man — the powers that be, occult and luciferian in practice go to unwitting lengths to soil and defame his holiest of names ( Jesus Christ ) .. don´t think for 1 otium that this is a disinformation ploy, for you have been deceived more then just once …
Satan is also the Devil is Lucifer is the Son of the Morning is Jesus. There are just more high and low satans
Lucifer… is he not Enki who has always strived to help us?
Luzifer = intellect
Osiris = Intellect
Isis = Doctrin
Satan or Luzifer give the man the Power of Intellect.adam saw himself and knew that he is naked and his wife knew it too. They start to think.
You know the story. You see, the same story that used in the garden for Adam and Eve, the devil, is the story with which he now misleads the world and can grow the occult: “I will make you a God.”
He can not even make himself a God, how can he make of thee a God?
Do you remember with what he would make of him a god:
Knowledge-Intelekt!
Ignatus
I am a man that is of deep faith and understanding. I have read the bible. I know that most Christians are mislead. If you look at psalms 110 verses “the lord said to my lord, sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool, the lord shall send the rod of your strength out of zion, rule in the midst of your enemies, your people shall be volunteers in the day of your power, in the beauties of holiness, OUT OF THE WOMB OF THE MORNING, you have the dew of your youth, the lord has sworn and will not relent, you are a priest forever according to the order of melchizedek, son of the morning, womb of the morning, now lets explore something else, revelations 22 verses 26-29 to him who overcomes and keeps my works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations, he shall rule them with a rod of iron, they shall be dashed to pieces like a potters vessel, as I have also received from my father and I will also give him the morning star, now lets go to psalms 2 why do the nations rage and the kings plot a vain thing, the rulers take counsel together against the lord and against his anointed, saying, let us break their bonds in pieces and cast away their cords from us, he who sits heaven shall laugh, the lord shall hold them in derision, then he shall speak to them in his wrath and distress them in his deep displeasure, yet I have set my king on my holy hill of zion, I will declare the decree the lord has said to me you are my son today I have begotten you, ask of me and I will give you the nations for your inheritance, and the ends of the earth for your possession, YOU SHALL BREAK THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON AND SHATTER THE LIKE A POTTERS VESSEL, now lets explore reincarnation in the bible, Elijah was reincarnated as john the Baptist so others are reincarnated as well, Mathew 11 10-17 ,behold I send my messenger before your face who will prepare your way before you, assuredly I say to you among woman those born of woman there has not risen one greater than John the Baptist, but he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater then he, and from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force, for all the prophets and law prophesied until John, and if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah, who is to come, he who has ears to hear let him hear, now Elijah was prophesied in Isiah to come during Christ first appearance, Isiah 40 3-4, the voice of one crying in the wilderness, prepare the way of the lord, make straight in the desert, a highway for our god, every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill brought low, the crooked places shall be made straight, and the rough places smooth, the glory of the lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together, in Malachi 4 verse 5 is the prophesy of Elijahs return ounce again before the lords second appearance, Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the lord, now Jesus Christ is the father in flesh, He uses parables so we don’t understand with the ears of our flesh, He himself says in John 10 30 I and the father are one, he also tells king david that he will make him his first born son and that with him HIS HAND SHALL BE ESTABLISHED, THAT HE WOULD COME TO THE EARTH THROUGH HIM, PSALMS 89 20-29 , then you spoke in a vision to your holy one and said, I have given help to one who is mighty, I have exalted on chosen from the people, I have found my servant David. with my holy oil I have anointed him, with whom my hand shall be established, also my arm will strengthen him, the enemy shall not outwit him nor the son of wickedness afflict him, I will beat down his foes before his face, and plague those that hate him, but my faithfulness and mercy shall be with him, and in my name his horn shall be exalted, also I will set his hand over the sea, and his right hand over the rivers, he shall cry to me, you are my father, my god and the rock of my salvation, also I will make him my first born, the highest of the kings of the EARTH, now Davids reincarnation at the time of Christ return is prophesied in Ezekiel 34 20-24 therefore thus says the lord god to them, behold I myself will judge between the fat and the lean sheep, because you have pushed with side and shoulder, butted all the weak ones with your horns and scattered them abroad, therefore I will save my flock and they shall no longer be a prey and I will judge between sheep and sheep, I will establish one shepherd over them and he shall feed them, my servant David. he shall feed them and be their shepherd, and I the lord will be their god, and my servant David a prince among them, I the lord have spoken, again in Ezekiel 37 24-27, David my servant shall be king over them, and they shall all have one shepherd, they shall also walk in my judgments and observe my statutes and do them, then they shall dell in the land that I have given to Jacob my servant, where your fathers dwelt, and shall dwell there, they their children, and their childrens children, forever and my servant David shall be their Prince forever, moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them, and it shall be an everlasting covenant with them, I will establish them and multiply them, and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forevermore, my tabernacle also shall be with them, indeed I will be their god and they shall be my people, the nations also will know that I the lord sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary is in their midst, David is Lucifer and I am David, I have the dew of my youth which came in the form of and implant I received at 7 years of age in my right buttock, it is advanced technology, the united states government has known of me for while now, the same ball of light that hovered over the temple mount in the holy city on the hill of zion, descended and ascended over me and my companions when I was 7 then that golf ball sized implant appeared the next morning, when I go through the body scanner at the airport it shows up as metal, I have been set on the holy hill but not yet received the dew of my youth, I am a very troubled man, I served our country, fought in Afghanistan and while I was there I received the dragon, the morning star, if I cannot tame this beast I will become Lucifer, if I can I will awaken In the likeness of the most high and dwell in his presence forever, also see job and you will see that morning star is reference for angels, Christ is the bright and morning star, the most high, there was another, she is of the tribe of Levi and I the tribe of Judah, we were raised in the same town and she was also taken into the beauties of holiness, see Psalms 45 she is to be my queen, she is a Levinson I have met with her many times in my dreams and every man she has ever loved has Died, I am the only one she can fornicate with, my father Jesus Christ is coming and when he is here all things will be seen and all will know that the son of man comes on the clouds,
Patrah
Lucifer convinced primitive man to over identify with egoic identity and lose sight of his spiritual truth hence forth the fall from Grace, he is one as are all of us but does not deserve respect or admiration for what has happened in relation to this entity.
How can he not deserve respect or recognition God is God, the all knowing. The alpha and the omega he knows the beginning the end and everything in between, I for one love Lucifer because my God instructs me very clearly to love my enemy as I love my friend and ts not my place to judge but how many Christian can say they don’t judge daily? Let alon . Never? Not to many but we as Christians have no problem judging… People other religions other gods….. Its pathetic nothing Christ like about most self professed Christians …. I mean how many churches preach the bible? The ones I have been to only preach their opinion. That is not Gods word its human opinion
Ed, first of all, you said that you love Lucifer…are you serious? And your using the golden rule passage to back it up? That is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. I think you might be forgetting the wrath of God toward evil and evil-doers. Lucifer is wholly evil, a complete evil-doer, and you love Him? Even in God’s infinite love, I can confidently say that He does not love Lucifer.
Also, with the whole judging thing, Christians have a right to judge. In fact, the Bible says how to judge, and that they ought to judge. It is a command to judge. Another word that can be replaced is discernment. How can one discern without proper judgment? Granted, there are numerous hypocrites and bad judgments in the Church, but that is all the more reason why all should be welcome in church.
I apologize if you have had bad experiences with church. Nobody is perfect, especially the Church. It’s not easy finding one with sound doctrine and a good community to build each other up…and often times building each other up includes judging, hopefully good judging.
You don’t throw hate at hate it will only make it stronger…that is the problem with people today and why evil is growing we send it more negative energy that it what evil wants to be stronger! Love will conquer all don’t forget that the next time you judge!
@Ed can you explain whu god in the bible ask of his children to love thy enemy as thyself but dosent take heed to doing that himself.. and if lucifer is his creation also what makes you think he dosent love lucifer the same way he ask of us to love thy enemy.. and as mentioned above lucfer is the bearer of light.. the sun of the morning.. morning star.. that all sounds great to a civilization.. where does those characters spell evil?
The scriptures about lucifer is more of a question oh lucifer sun of the morning how has thou fallen.. but the scriptures on the devil satan meaning the opposite or adversary of something says the ancient Dragon has been thrown or cast down thats not a question the host know that God cast an evil out of the heavens but its like there asking how has lucifer fallen as if they didnt know why
Love Your Enemies
(Leviticus 24:17-23; Matthew 5:38-48)
27But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, 28Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. 29And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also. 30Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again. 31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise. 32For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them. 33And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same. 34And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again. 35But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. 36Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.
Do Not Judge
(Matthew 7:1-6; Romans 14:1-12)
37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: 38Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
39And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? 40The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master. 41And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 42Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye.
There was no person or divine by the name of Satan or Set-Tan, who was the evil brother of Osris of anceint Egypt ( Kemit) North Afrika . This is where the concept of Satan or the Devil came from…Everything that God created, He created in pair, eg. man and woman, positive and negative, good and evil, but this does not mean that, the Devil or Satan is responsible for the wrong one does. This is also the concept of the polarity or the duel nature of man and God. The Intelllectual elite of the world, such as others and myself found a way to control the ignorant masses of the world who are suffering from the greed of the ruling class. The oppressed masses has been fool into beliving that , their problems or suffering are due to the work of the devil..whoever the devil may be. No, I am not disputing the fact that , you have bad people and good people. Whatever happpens to free will?
Actually, Lucifer’s name was changed to Satan once Satan got his ass whooped in the War of Heaven and got his sorry ass casted down, thus proving that the Angel that was once known as Lucifer, is now Satan, proving that Lucifer and Satan are the same angel.
I agree
hi, mind to share the evidence of the name changing?
Actually, in the original Hebrew text the verse in Isaiah was has nothing to do with Lucifer, but the king of Babylon. It was later on changed to “Lucifer.” Same goes to the verse in Ezekiel that Christians love to point out against Satan. It’s about another king who pissed off the so-called “God” of Israel.,
And the Bible is a lie.
Satan most certainly does exist in the Bible specifically in the book of JOB. Satan means “Adversary, opponent, enemy” in Hebrew. “Ha” is the article “The” the proper name of the devil is actually his function. “The Adversary”. Indeed in Job “HaSatan” is a Tattle-tale and yes, he does roam the Earth. Job 1:6 ¶ Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.6 ¶ Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
1Pe 5:8 ¶ Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
In the the Young’s literal version “Adversary” answered “Jehovah” is in Job and “Opponent” is used in 1Peter. Yes, the Devil exists in scripture as a jealous person not wanting us to succeed and Jehovah will let him have his way with us. Paul and John the Baptists refer to it as “The Fiery trials, baptism of fire”.