Ramesses III’s DNA is E1b1b

This month, December 2012, a DNA test was released revealing apocalyptic revelations for Ramesses III that he belongs to the E1b1b Y-DNA haplogroup. This news is something that I have intuitively have known for over a year now.

The test also revealed he was murdered.

Genetic kinship analyses revealed identical haplotypes in both mummies (table 1⇓); using the Whit Athey’s haplogroup predictor, we determined the Y chromosomal haplogroup E1b1a. The testing of polymorphic autosomal microsatellite loci provided similar results in at least one allele of each marker (table 2⇓). Although the mummy of Ramesses III’s wife Tiy was not available for testing, the identical Y chromosomal DNA and autosomal half allele sharing of the two male mummies strongly suggest a father-son relationship.

Ramesses III was the 2nd Pharaoh of the Twentieth Dynasty and is considered to be the last great New Kingdom king to wield any substantial authority over Egypt. He was the son of Setnakhte and Queen Tiy-Merenese.

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33 Comments

  1. ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 6:35 pm - Reply

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_L2_(mtDNA)

    Haplogroup L2a1c1[edit]
    L2a1c1 has a North African origin. It is defined by markers 198, 930, 3308, 8604, 16086. It is observed among Tunisia Sephardic, Ashkenazi, Hebrews, Moroccans, Egyptians, Nubians, and Yemenis.

  2. Moe July 18, 2013 at 11:27 am - Reply

    I’m glad we agree! Great information Brother and please keep up the awesome work you are doing. Thanks for sharing your haplogroups. My maternal mtDNA is H. I’m related to many Western European and German Queens on my mother’s side and I suspect this is where many of us differ and in our physical features as well. There are things in DNA science that I’m sure the powers that be are keeping quiet and not all that what we see is what is truth so it is important that we all compare notes to discover the actual truths.

    It’s so nice to meet people like you around the world who are also searching on their path and who are also open to truth no matter how it comes to them. I wish everyone was like you in their search. Some day we will all know truth and love one another regardless of our skin color or our past histories.

    Peace be with you in all that you do!

    • ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 5:38 pm - Reply

      was a pleasure to meet you, I’m really enjoying your blogger because it is very informative, that you always continue with this work to disseminate the scientific knowledge so that more people can get more knowledge of what is hidden from our eyes, I learned a lot thing in your blogger and acquire knowledge, one must say that you are to be congratulated, I wish from the bottom of my heart that you have victory and success in all that you do.

      • Moe July 19, 2013 at 6:40 am - Reply

        It was a GREAT pleasure to meet you as well Antonio. It so nice and refreshing to connect with such awesome souls from around the world. 🙂

    • ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 5:41 pm - Reply

      I can not speak English, so I ask that you come to apologize for typos!

      • Moe July 19, 2013 at 6:44 am - Reply

        No worries because I speak English and often have typos or grammar issues. It is the message and heart that counts.

        • ITSCHAC July 19, 2013 at 9:52 am - Reply

          Our findings are getting interesting brother

          • Moe July 20, 2013 at 1:37 pm

            I agree Bother Antonio. It was great to meet you this week. I hope you have a great weekend in Brazil!

          • ITSCHAC July 20, 2013 at 3:19 pm

            It was great I met him too! I wish you a great great weekend!

    • ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 5:48 pm - Reply

      Take a look at This:
      http://www.geni.com/projects/mtDNA-Haplogroups/3921

      Ashkenazi Projects

      See the main project at Ashkenzi DNA Founding Mothers for more information.

      HV1 (mtDNA) (Ashkenazi)
      H* (mtDNA) (Ashkenazi)
      H5 (mtDNA) (Ashkenazi)
      H6 (mtDNA) (Ashkenazi)
      H7 (mtDNA) (Ashkenazi)
      J (mtDNA) (Ashkenazi)
      K1a1b1a (mtDNA) (Ashkenazi)
      L2a1c1 (mtDNA) (Ashkenazi)
      R0a2 (mtDNA) (Ashkenazi)
      N1b2 (mtDNA) (Ashkenazi)
      N1c (mtDNA) (Ashkenazi)
      U1b (mtDNA) (Ashkenazi)
      U4 (mtDNA) (Ashkenazi)
      T2 (mtDNA) (Ashkenzai & Sephardi)
      V (mtDNA) (Ashkenazi)

      • Moe July 19, 2013 at 6:43 am - Reply

        Thanks for the links and information Brother. I didn’t see this project before. Looks like we are connected on both sides of our family trees. That is very interesting!

    • ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 5:49 pm - Reply

      Your mtDNA haplogroup H mtDNA Haplogroup and my L2a1c1 are included

    • ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 5:52 pm - Reply

      your mtdna haplogroup H is connected Azquenazi matriarchal Jewish women!

    • ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 6:04 pm - Reply

      I made a friend request on facebook and twitter take a lhada there

  3. ITSCHAC July 17, 2013 at 9:00 am - Reply

    Ramesses III belonged to YDNA haplogroup E1b1a

    According to a study published yesterday, Revisiting the harem conspiracy and death of Ramesses III: anthropological, forensic, radiological, and genetic study, Y- STR data places his YDNA haplogroup in E1b1a using Whit Athey’s Haplogroup predictor:

    “Genetic kinship analyses revealed identical haplotypes in both mummies (table 1⇓); using the Whit Athey’s haplogroup predictor, we determined the Y chromosomal haplogroup E1b1a. “

    • Moe July 17, 2013 at 7:33 pm - Reply

      Yes, I’m aware of Ramesses III belonging to Haplogroup E1b1a, but additional genetic testing suggest that the remains may indeed belong to y-dna haplogroup E1b1b[citation needed] which split from E1b1a about 40-50 thousand years ago, and tends to be common in the Levant, Northern Africa, and the Rift valley region in modern times. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_haplogroups_of_notable_people#Ramesses_III

      I would even bet anyone who is willing that he is E1b1b because E1b1a is the Ethiopian blood line and E1b1b the Phoenician.

      • ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 6:36 am - Reply

        . E1b1b1d (E-V6), E1b1b1f (E-V42), E1b1b1g (E-V92), and E1b1b2 (E-V16/E-M281) are all associated with Ethiopia. E1b1b1e* is found in Southern and Eastern Africa. Roots in Ethiopia or the vicinity seem likely.

      • ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 6:38 am - Reply

        E1b1b1b1c (E-V42). Found in individuals in Ethiopia.

        E-V92. Found in individuals in Ethiopia.

        E1b1b1d (E-V6). Found mainly in the region of Ethiopia.

        Haplogroup E1b1b2 (E-V16/E-M281). Rare. Found in individuals in Ethiopia.

      • ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 6:42 am - Reply

        It is clear that the Y-DNA Haplogroup E1b1a is not the bloodline Etiope

      • ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 7:08 am - Reply

        Take a look at this site Ethiopians do not have familiarity with Y-DNA E1b1a:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_by_populations_of_Sub-Saharan_Africa#cite_note-Hassan_2008-3

        • Moe July 18, 2013 at 7:33 am - Reply

          Thanks for the DNA schooling ITSCHAC! I should have referenced my notes on this and Google just like you did. That is usually my golden rule and I humbly apologize for my mistake that I should have caught.

          Just FYI, these Haplogroups are very similar to mine which is E1b1b1c M+123 which you can see here, http://gnosticwarrior.com/maurice-bedard-e1b1b1c-ydna.html and my understanding is that this Haplogroup is the father of Ethiopians. The distribution pattern of E-M123 is patchy and this has led to discussion about how this can be explained. Cruciani et al. (2004) proposed that although the clade has its roots in northeastern Africa, it has likely come to Ethiopia via Egypt, and then the Middle East. Luis et al. (2004) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-M123#Origin

          Here is the E1B1 page on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E1b1b_%28Y-DNA%29 that clearly states E-M123 is mostly known for its major subclade E-M34, which dominates this clade. E-M123 i is the father of the major subclade E-M34.

          It appears my ancestors were involved in the forming of the Ethiopian peoples. Hence, they are the father via E-M123 which created the subclade E-M34.

          If you research Ramesses III you can clearly tell his is not Ethiopian, but more Phoenician or Greek. So, he may just be the father of the Ethiopians via E-M123 because I have connected him with King Solomon as well.

          • ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 8:33 am

            Interesting that the link you sent me, and I see also that your haplogroup is observed in Cohen Samaritan this is fantastic! I have much to learn about the history of all haplogroup though my haplogroup in this study

      • ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 7:10 am - Reply

        E1b1a is the bloodline Ethiopian unfounded

        • ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 8:35 am - Reply

          take a look at this site:
          http://www.genebase.com/learning/article/2

          E1b1b1c. M123
          The E1b1b1c subclade (M123) is found at its highest frequency outside of Africa, in the Middle East (12% Oman), Near East (12%, Turkey) and Europe (13%, Italy), although substantial levels (11%) have been reported for Ethiopia. As E1b1b1c/M123 is found in Turkey (Anatolia), it provides another geographic link and probably migratory route between the Middle East and Europe. In Anatolia, and Europe in general, E1b1b1c/M123 decreases in the northward direction. Based on variation of STR sites, divergence and expansion estimates for the E1b1b1c/M123 subclade are in the Mesolithic Era (~11kya), which predates the Neolithic spread of agriculture from the Mid-East and it could indicate high early diversity in the founding population in Anatolia. Subsequently, this subclade is likely to have participated in the Neolithic diffusion of agriculture to parts of Europe. Interestingly, it is found abundantly in Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews (12%).

          • Moe July 18, 2013 at 8:50 am

            Thanks for the comments and information ‘cousin.’ My research into this makes me come to the conclusion that we are the true Israelites and add in the fact that the Ethiopians say they have the Arc of Covenant. So I take it we are cousins and it appears some of us have dark skin, some brown, and some white/reddish like me. What is your Haplogroup?

            My understanding is that we left Africa in or around 1AD to colonize Europe and this must be where the split in our blood line had occurred. I’m sure over 2000 years this will also change some of our physical features. Those of us who stayed in Africa will naturally be more dark skinned and those of us who ventured to colder climates will have much lighter skin and lighter eyes. Then of course the various maternal blood line mixes also play a part in how we look.

            What I find very interesting is that I’m related to the Ethiopians and most people would call me white as can be or European when I’m may technically be an African American with European roots.

          • ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 9:02 am

            I fully agree with you! It is reasonable that wish Ethiopians claim their Israelite heritage, truly they are the true Israelites and their haplogroup also a part of the ancient Israelites!

          • ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 9:04 am

            My Y-DNA haplogroup is E1b1a7a is observed in Yoruba tribes, however there is still much study on this haplogroup

          • ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 9:06 am

            you tested all markers of their Y-DNA?

          • ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 9:09 am

            I was born and I live in Brazil, and Jews know azquenazi tested whose haplogroup was E1b1b1c

          • ITSCHAC July 18, 2013 at 9:11 am

            MY mtDNA haplogroup It L2a1c1

  4. TRuTH February 24, 2013 at 3:10 am - Reply

    Honestly, I think that is GNOSTICWARRIOR.COM propaganda and you really delusional. In time we shall know the truth

  5. Anonymous February 8, 2013 at 2:42 pm - Reply

    He belongs to the E1b1a Y-DNA haplogroup !!!!!!!!!!

    • Maurice February 13, 2013 at 6:14 am - Reply

      Honestly, I think that is DNA propaganda and he is really E1b1b. In time we shall know the truth.

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